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Steve Groppe's Reflections
On the Barker Ranch 2007 Search

Website Note:  When Sgt. Paul Dostie contacted me in January 2007 about searching Barker Ranch, I suggested Steve Groppe as a guide.  I knew that Steve had made numerous trips to Barker, was extremely informed on the Manson story, and knew much history related to Death Valley.  Following are some of Steve's memories as related to me in January 2008.

First, thanks for getting those guys in touch with me. I have a feeling they would have been lost if I was not there. I was getting phone calls from people wanting to know where to stay. Panamint Springs filled up real fast. As usual, I had them stay in Ridgecrest. Lone Pine is REAL expensive with very little there.

I met some dog handlers about 5 AM, they stayed at the Best Western, me at Econo Lodge. These folks were from LA. Filled up in Trona, got to Ballarat about 6. We spent about an hour there, were given Police Radios and met each other. There were dogs/handlers from all over Calif. Big dogs and little dogs. Emmett Harder, some park rangers (in a Hummer), CHP officer in a 4wd, and the film crew from Discovery Channel (in a RENTED Hummer) were there. They took all the dogs to the Ballarat Cemetery and they got excited and alerted on all the graves. I remember one dog sitting on a grave and refused to get up!

The rangers and CHP took off to Golar like Bats out of Hell!! Maybe I would have done the same if I was driving a state/Gov vehicle! I led the caravan of about 15 vehicles, slowly. Emmett and I were answering all the questions over the radio, like “What’s that?” as we drove by the Briggs mine. When I was almost at the base of the wash, the Discovery crew flew by me (not too smart), stopped, and had me take the camera man up to the top so he could film them going up. I stopped at the Newman Mine where he filmed them. Of course, since they passed by, nobody knew where to go. Emmett and I talked them up a ways until I got ahead of them. Short time later, someone had a flat. Street tires do not cut it!! I was prepared with some fix-a-flat. A short break at the Lotus mine. After passing the “Welcome to Death Valley” sign, I had the camper pull over. There was no way that would have made it any further. Passengers and dogs transferred to other vehicles. About 10 minutes later, we were at the Ranch.

Park Rangers gave a safety briefing. Emmett and I showed them where Myers Ranch was, I took them to the two “garbage dumps”. What was funny is that the Rangers didn’t even know about the dump with all the cars and trucks in it!

The leader of the team, Paul, had really done his homework on the case. He asked me about something he read that said, “Charlie and Tex walked up a draw towards Myers with a boy and a girl. They returned alone.” I showed him where I suspect they went. Within minutes I heard on the radio that a dog alerted down that way. Over the period of about three hours, they took each dog down that way, always alone with no other dogs present. From what I recall, every dog alerted on the same spot. I know they took dirt samples of the spot. I was filmed making the holes for the samples. GPS coordinates were taken.

The whole time we were there, Emmett just told stories to anyone who wanted to listen.

I kind of felt useless, and was walking with a real nice girl with an accent. I think her name was E___ (deleted by website for privacy). She had a real small dog who just loved climbing on the junk cars.

FUNNY THINGS:

The Discovery crew was climbing on the roof of the rented Hummer to take pictures. They tried to use the passenger side mirror for a step, and it snapped off.

I was interviewed and they were shocked when I told them I feel the Tate/LaBianca murders were both contract hits. They never heard of Frank Carbo or knew anything about his gambling debts.

Some of the female handlers were a little shocked when there was no real restroom, just the outside toilet. But they had to go, and did not hesitate using it! (Of course I was prepared with a roll of TP!)

Some people passing by were smoking weed at the ranch. It didn’t take long for the CHP officer and Park Rangers to arrest them. I think (not sure) that they were either ticketed or just given a warning because they were still there when we left.

The drive back to Ballarat was pretty uneventful, except when we got back to the wash, two trucks turned right instead of left. At the falls, I had a Lexus SUV riding my bumper going down. That is not a safe thing to do on those slippery rocks! NOTE: Paul collected the radios before we left the Ranch. We had no way of communicating with the knuckleheads!

After a short stop at Ballarat, we decided to eat dinner at Panamint Springs. Remember, these were all police officers - I was about ¾ of the way back in the pack, and I was doing 105 mph just to keep up with them!!

After a great meal, we said our goodbyes. I’m driving back to Ridgecrest doing about 80 or so, and Emmett flew by me doing at least 100!!

I was asleep by 9 PM!!

CONCLUSION:

A very professional operation. Being a witness to the dogs all alerting on the same spot, not coached in anyway, I firmly believe some remains are buried there. Of course it could be ancient Indian remains.

The condition of Barker Ranch is going down real fast. It is a shame.

Myer’s was rebuilt after that fire a few years back. It is beautiful!! Emmett is still in touch with the Myer’s family. I told him, “Tell them if they have a generator and satellite TV, I’ll be the caretaker for free!”


Steve Groppe

 

For the main story on the Barker Ranch search, click here.
For an interview with Sgt. Paul Dostie,
click here.
For photos of the February 24, 2007 search,
click here.


 


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